Tuesday, July 13th 2021

LattePanda Alpha Announced - A Palm-Sized and Low-Power Windows 10 SBC

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The LattePanda Alpha, based on Intel Core m3-8100Y, is a Dual-Core 1.10 GHz CPU that bursts up to 3.40 GHz. Integrated Intel UHD Graphics 615 into the processor, the LattePanda Alpha delivers enhanced media conversion, fast frame rates, and 4K Ultra HD (UHD) video. All of this computing power dissipates only 8 W power, which is the perfect choice for users who need a small, portable, and light SBC for their powerful DIY handheld. And, given its incredibly small size, the LattePanda Alpha can be easily hidden, functioning as the secretly powerful brains behind users coolest project.
Key Features
  • Intel Core M3-8100Y, Dual-Core, 1.10-3.40 GHz
  • Intel UHD Graphics 615
  • 8 GB Memory
  • Dual-Band 2.4 GHz/5 GHz Wi-Fi & Bluetooth 4.2 & Gigabit Ethernet
  • USB 3.0 x3, USB Type-C x1
  • 2x M.2 PCIe (Support B&M Key and A&E Key)
  • Support Windows 10 & & Linux OS
  • Integrated Arduino Coprocessor ATMEL 32U4
  • Powered by PD adapter / 12 V DC / 7.4 V battery
Embedded DisplayPort (commonly referred to as eDP) is a full-digital interface based on the VESA DisplayPort architecture and protocol, which can use simpler connectors and fewer pins to transmit high-resolution signals as well as allow higher transmission speeds as opposed to LVDS cables. Another benefit of eDP interface is that they allow users to easily connect LattePanda Alpha directly to an LCD.

DIY handheld is a cute little device. Make your own DIY handheld with LattePanda Alpha and it is so cool to carry its powerful functionality around in such a small package.

For more information about LattePanda, please visit this page.

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30 Comments on LattePanda Alpha Announced - A Palm-Sized and Low-Power Windows 10 SBC

#1
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
But muh #WindoezEleven
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#2
ixi
Intel, muhahaha. Thanks, but no.
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#3
Caring1
Latte Panda?
Is this used to power hipsters coffee machines?
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#4
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
ixiIntel, muhahaha. Thanks, but no.
AMD has no equivalent as of now. The closest is probably the Asrock 4x4 stuff, bit those boards are twice as big and use more power. EDIT scratch the size bit, I got the 4x4 confused with something else. But the power thing stands. AMD has no equivalent product.
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#5
elghinnarisa
Caring1Latte Panda?
Is this used to power hipsters coffee machines?
Almost want to create a coffee machine controlled by a latte panda just because of that. Then of course you can customize the LT itself to have it produce different types of coffee. Should probably add blockchain technology and some AI to it as well to really sell.
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#6
TheUn4seen
ixiIntel, muhahaha. Thanks, but no.
So, what would be the equivalent product from the manufacturer you're a fanboy of?
Personally I'm waiting for a high performance SBC based on RISC-V. BeagleV seems promising but it's still not launched, so if you want something with more processing power than Raspberry Pi Intel-based SBCs are the only way.
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#7
lexluthermiester
btarunrThe LattePanda Alpha
Didn't this come out months ago? I mean good news is good news, but one would have thought they'd send out press releases a bit sooner..
ixiIntel, muhahaha. Thanks, but no.
Hey, your fanboy is showing..
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#8
TheLostSwede
News Editor
Backed the original one on Kickstarter, it was utterly useless and super slow. Gave it away to someone...
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#9
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeBacked the original one on Kickstarter, it was utterly useless and superslow.
Yeah, it was. Ironically, install Android X86 and it ran well.. At least 4.4R5 did.
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#10
TheLostSwede
News Editor
FrickAMD has no equivalent as of now. The closest is probably the Asrock 4x4 stuff, bit those boards are twice as big and use more power. EDIT scratch the size bit, I got the 4x4 confused with something else. But the power thing stands. AMD has no equivalent product.
No?
What's this then?
www.sapphiretech.com/en/commercial/bp-fp6
Or any of the other boards they sell?
TheUn4seenSo, what would be the equivalent product from the manufacturer you're a fanboy of?
Personally I'm waiting for a high performance SBC based on RISC-V. BeagleV seems promising but it's still not launched, so if you want something with more processing power than Raspberry Pi Intel-based SBCs are the only way.
High performance and RISC-V doesn't exactly go hand in hand right now and it likely won't for a good few years.
Their current high-end architecture that is actually available seem to be about on par with the ARM Cortex-A35, which is not what I'd call high-end.
The SoC on the BeagleV might be as good a a Cortex-A53, but it seems like there are no benchmarks of it so...
It's also only clocked at 1GHz and it's limited to two cores.
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#11
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeNo?
What's this then?
www.sapphiretech.com/en/commercial/bp-fp6
Or any of the other boards they sell?


High performance and RISC-V doesn't exactly go hand in hand right now and it likely won't for a good few years.
Their current high-end architecture that has actually been turned into silicon seem to be about on par with the ARM Cortex-A35, which is not what I'd call high-end.
This is true. AMD has made available Ryzen based SOCs that are SBC capable.
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#12
windwhirl
FreedomEclipseBut muh #WindoezEleven
You can't have support for an OS that hasn't even been finalized.
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#13
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeHigh performance and RISC-V doesn't exactly go hand in hand right now and it likely won't for a good few years.
Their current high-end architecture that has actually been turned into silicon seem to be about on par with the ARM Cortex-A35, which is not what I'd call high-end.
I don't think they're aiming for high-end. I think they're aiming for highly functional..
windwhirlYou can't have support for a OS that hasn't even been finalized.
Betting real money it'll still work.
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#14
TheLostSwede
News Editor
lexluthermiesterI don't think they're aiming for high-end. I think they're aiming for highly functional..
Yeah, changed my post above a bit as well.
But the person I was replying to was asking for a high-end RISC-V chip, something better than the RPi 4, which isn't likely to happen any time soon.
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#15
windwhirl
lexluthermiesterBetting real money it'll still work
Probably. But as a company it can't expose itself to a lawsuit because they said it would work with W11 and then have it turn out it doesn't because X reasons.
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#16
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeYeah, changed my post above a bit as well.
But the person I was replying to was asking for a high-end RISC-V chip, something better than the RPi 4, which isn't likely to happen any time soon.
Ah, yes. Fair enough. That would be nice! An RPi that actually performed well and was completely open platform? Yes please!
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#17
Patriot
FrickAMD has no equivalent as of now. The closest is probably the Asrock 4x4 stuff, bit those boards are twice as big and use more power. EDIT scratch the size bit, I got the 4x4 confused with something else. But the power thing stands. AMD has no equivalent product.
us.dfi.com/product/index/1455
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#18
TheLostSwede
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lexluthermiesterAh, yes. Fair enough. That would be nice! An RPi that actually performed well and was completely open platform? Yes please!
The RPi 4 could've been great, but it's only so so.
For starters the Broadcom SoC is based on the second worst ARM v8 core after the Cortex-A57, as the Cortex-A72 runs hot and it's not power efficient.
Then there's the lack of any kind of crypto engine, so simple things like SSL has to be done in software, which slows down the entire SoC.
Of course we have the lack of fast interfaces as well, even though it has a single PCIe lane for the first time, it's still not really good enough for a modern SoC.
And as you pointed out, the fact that it's not a particularly open platform at all, especially with the proprietary Broadcom bits that no-one can really do anything with and that are entirely at Broadcom's mercy.
In many ways, it's just as bad as getting a chip from Rockchip or AllWinner, as there's about as much support from the manufacturer in all three cases.
Obviously the RPi foundation is doing a good job, but they have one arm tied behind their back so to say.
Patriotus.dfi.com/product/index/1455
It's still funny that they offer a passive heatsink for that thing. The heatsink is something like 5cm tall.
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#19
lexluthermiester
TheLostSwedeFor starters the Broadcom SoC is based on the second worst ARM v8 core after the Cortex-A57, as the Cortex-A72 runs hot and it's not power efficient.
True, but the drivers for the hardware are open source and that was the selling point for the RPi Foundation.
TheLostSwedeIt's still funny that they offer a passive heatsink for that thing. The heatsink is something like 5cm tall.
With a TDP of 25w configurable down to 15w, passive cooling become possible..

But we're off-topic...
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#20
ixi
lexluthermiesterHey, your fanboy is showing..
And I'm fine with that because intel in the last year is sucking on sock :).
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#21
jeremyshaw
lexluthermiesterTrue, but the drivers for the hardware are open source and that was the selling point for the RPi Foundation.

With a TDP of 25w configurable down to 15w, passive cooling become possible..

But we're off-topic...
Sort of open source. AFAIK, parts of the GPU firmware and boot loader are still closed binary blobs. Same with the (fmr)Broadcom/Cypress SoC that serves WiFi over SPI.

Sure, the software drivers may (mostly) be open source, but they really just serve as a nice ABI (but totally not ABI) to closed source firmware (totally not drivers).

That being said, I am hopeful for their efforts to make the rPi4 UEFI compatible (even Nvidia is dragging their Jetson Xaviers into UEFI compatibility), so we can do away with uboot/cboot. Well, in the future, at least. Hopefully.
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#22
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
TheLostSwedeNo?
What's this then?
www.sapphiretech.com/en/commercial/bp-fp6
Or any of the other boards they sell?


High performance and RISC-V doesn't exactly go hand in hand right now and it likely won't for a good few years.
Their current high-end architecture that is actually available seem to be about on par with the ARM Cortex-A35, which is not what I'd call high-end.
The SoC on the BeagleV might be as good a a Cortex-A53, but it seems like there are no benchmarks of it so...
It's also only clocked at 1GHz and it's limited to two cores.
Higher TDP. More performamce, but also more power.
Patriotus.dfi.com/product/index/1455
That one qualifies. I had forgot about the R1000s.
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#23
Nuke Dukem
Prices starting at a mere $389.00... ghawd dayum!
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#24
InhaleOblivion
Nuke DukemPrices starting at a mere $389.00... ghawd dayum!
Breaks piggy bank...Take my money. :roll:
In all seriousness. I think most will stick to their favorite flavored Pi. Some of us really like Rasberry.
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#25
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
I think I'd rather get a Raspberry Pi 4 that's fully loaded with memory and eMMC to be honest. The price premium for that single core performance and two small M.2 slots is probably not worth it. I feel like a good ARM SoC should be able to do the same for less.
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