AMD EPYC Turin Zen 5 CPUs Rumored To Feature Up To 256 Cores & 192 Core Configurations, Max 600W Configurable TDPs

Hassan Mujtaba

Details regarding AMD's next-generation EPYC Turin CPUs based on the Zen 5 architecture have been revealed by ExecutableFix & Greymon55. The details talk about the next-gen EPYC TDPs & core counts that we can expect from the first server chips powered by the new Zen architecture.

AMD EPYC Turin Server CPUs Based on Zen Architecture Rumored To Feature Up To 256 Cores & 600W TDPs

The AMD 5th Gen EPYC family, codenamed Turin, will be replacing the Genoa lineup but will be compatible with the SP5 platform. The Turin line of chips could utilize package designs unlike we have ever seen before. The Turin CPUs will be an evolution of the stacked 3D Chiplet designs that we are going to see on EPYC Milan-X CPUs later this year. Considering that Turin will be launching years later, it can be theorized that these EPYC chips will have multiple CCD & Cache stacks on top of the base die.

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AMD Genoa CPUs are stated to feature up to 96 cores & Bergamo which is the evolution to Genoa on the same Zen 4 architecture will bring even higher core counts of 128 cores. With Turin, it has been rumored that we could very likely see PCIe Gen 6.0 interface and up to 256 cores on a single chip or even higher if AMD is going for stacked X3D chiplets.

It is stated that the EPYC Turin CPUs will come in two configurations, a 192 core, and 384 thread variant & a 256 core, and 512 thread variant. It will be interesting to see how AMD configures 2x the cores over Bergamo and Genoa on the same SP5 socket. There are two ways AMD could be able to achieve this. The first is to offer twice the number of cores per CCD. Currently, AMD Zen 3 and Zen 4 CCDs feature 8 cores per CCD. With 16 cores per CCD, you can definitely go up to 192 & 256 cores in 12 CCD and 16 CCD configurations.

In a previous rumor, MLID had revealed a brand new package layout featuring up to 16 CCDs on the SP5 socket. The second option for AMD which happens to be less likely but also possible would be to stack CCD on top of CCD. AMD could do it for both the 192 and 256 core parts. This will mean that each CCD will retain 8 cores but having two CCDs stacked on top of each other will give 16 cores per CCD-Stack.

As for TDPs, well having double the cores even on a brand new process node (TSMC 3nm) will be pretty hefty for the power budget. It is reported that EPYC Turin will have a max configurable TDP of up to 600W. The upcoming EPYC Genoa CPUs with 96 cores are going to feature cTDPs of up to 400W which while the SP5 socket has a peak power draw of up to 700W. This is very close to that figure.

The AMD EPYC Genoa and SP5 platform leak from Gigabyte already confirmed various info on the next-gen platforms. The LGA 6096 socket will feature 6096 pins arranged in the LGA (Land Grid Array) format. This will be by far the biggest socket that AMD has ever designed with 2002 more pins than the existing LGA 4094 socket. We have already listed the size and dimensions of this socket above so let's talk of its power ratings. It looks like the peak power of the LGA 6096 SP5 socket will be rated at up to 700W which will only last for 1ms, the peak power at 10ms is rated at 440W while the peak power with PCC is rated at 600W. If the cTDP is exceeded, then the EPYC chips featured on the SP5 socket will return to these limits within 30ms.

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In addition to this, a  leaked AMD slide also confirms future EPYC SOCs to feature higher DDR5 pin speeds of up to 6000-6400 Mbps. This could probably be referring to Turin or Bergamo as they are the ones that succeed Genoa. The EPYC Turin lineup is expected to launch around 2024-2025 & will be pitted against Intel's future Diamond Rapids Xeon platform.

AMD EPYC CPU Families:

Family NameAMD EPYC VeniceAMD EPYC Turin-DenseAMD EPYC Turin-XAMD EPYC TurinAMD EPYC SienaAMD EPYC BergamoAMD EPYC Genoa-XAMD EPYC GenoaAMD EPYC Milan-XAMD EPYC MilanAMD EPYC RomeAMD EPYC Naples
Family BrandingEPYC 11K?EPYC 10K?EPYC 10K?EPYC 10K?EPYC 8004EPYC 9004EPYC 9004EPYC 9004EPYC 7004EPYC 7003EPYC 7002EPYC 7001
Family Launch2025+2025?2025?202420232023202320222022202120192017
CPU ArchitectureZen 6?Zen 5CZen 5Zen 5Zen 4Zen 4CZen 4 V-CacheZen 4Zen 3Zen 3Zen 2Zen 1
Process NodeTBD3nm TSMC?4nm TSMC4nm TSMC5nm TSMC4nm TSMC5nm TSMC5nm TSMC7nm TSMC7nm TSMC7nm TSMC14nm GloFo
Platform NameTBDSP5SP5SP5SP6SP5SP5SP5SP3SP3SP3SP3
SocketTBDLGA 6096 (SP5)LGA 6096 (SP5)LGA 6096LGA 4844LGA 6096LGA 6096LGA 6096LGA 4094LGA 4094LGA 4094LGA 4094
Max Core Count384?19212812864128969664646432
Max Thread Count768?38425625612825619219212812812864
Max L3 CacheTBD384 MB1536 MB384 MB256 MB256 MB1152 MB384 MB768 MB256 MB256 MB64 MB
Chiplet DesignTBD12 CCD's (1CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD16 CCD's (1CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD16 CCD's (1CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD8 CCD's (1CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD12 CCD's (1 CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD12 CCD's (1 CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD12 CCD's (1 CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD8 CCD's (1 CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD8 CCD's (1 CCX per CCD) + 1 IOD8 CCD's (2 CCX's per CCD) + 1 IOD4 CCD's (2 CCX's per CCD)
Memory SupportTBDDDR5-6000?DDR5-6000?DDR5-6000?DDR5-5200DDR5-5600DDR5-4800DDR5-4800DDR4-3200DDR4-3200DDR4-3200DDR4-2666
Memory ChannelsTBD12 Channel (SP5)12 Channel (SP5)12 Channel6-Channel12 Channel12 Channel12 Channel8 Channel8 Channel8 Channel8 Channel
PCIe Gen SupportTBDTBDTBDTBD96 Gen 5128 Gen 5128 Gen 5128 Gen 5128 Gen 4128 Gen 4128 Gen 464 Gen 3
TDP (Max)TBD480W (cTDP 600W)480W (cTDP 600W)480W (cTDP 600W)70-225W320W (cTDP 400W)400W400W280W280W280W200W
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